The Face of Twee Indie Folk Godhood

shadoedseptmbr:

heretherebdragons said: FWIW, I just post on both ff.net and AO3. It doesn’t take much extra time, and I have a different set of readers at each site (although some of my ff people have started reading at AO3). So maybe both is good?

Oh, I post on both, too. For different sets of readers, exactly. But the majority of my current fic is M or above and it does violate the terms. And I would just edit it for ff.net, but…sometimes I do manage to sneak plot points (or at least a chunk of character development) in my smut.

Ah, yeah. That is a problem. I’ve done what you suggest - I just edit it out. Either the whole scene fades to black once clothes come off, or if there are plot thingies that need to happen, I just tone it all down and don’t mention specific body parts other than hands and necks and things. :D It’s a bit of a pain … BUT I also post a message at the bottom of those chapters (and then I link to the chapters on my FF.net profile page), saying that the explicit version is available at AO3, and a substantial number of readers have made the jump and read at least the explicit chapters at AO3. In a way, I don’t mind doing both versions; I’ve also posted notices at AO3 saying that there are “tamer” versions at FF.net, so if there’s anyone who would be more comfortable with a less explicit version, that option is also available. But yeah, it is somewhat more effort.

lifeofkj:

lirillith:

Looking through the comments on the FF.net/mass exodus fanfic flamingo posts made me want to rant a lot, so I’m sticking it under a cut.

Warning: I hate FF.net.  I HATE it. 

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All of this. Except I actually did give up on posting on FF.net and moved to AO3 exclusively, even though I’m sure it means not getting as many of readers, because I just couldn’t take it anymore — the war on punctuation was my last straw.

Yes. I, too, agree with the OP, although my feelings aren’t quite as vehement. Then again, OP clearly has a lot more years of dealing with FF.net. I’ve only been reading fic there for a few years, and posting for not quite a year (the anniversary of my first chapter of “Unshaken” is actually coming up in less than a month). So I haven’t had as much time dealing with these issues.

The punctuation thing is particularly obnoxious. I spent hours coming up with chapter breaks that don’t get stripped, but still look decent. And the inability to strikethrough makes me want to kick things.

I adore AO3 for the reasons given, and also for the ability to include artwork and even just LINKS. Oh, and the explicit content thing. I’m about to come up against that in “Unshaken,” and I’ve decided I’ll just post the full version of chapters with sexytimes to AO3, and then post edited, PG-13 versions to FF.net, with a note that readers who like reading about sexytimes should please go see the full version at AO3.

It’s definitely still worth it for me to post at FF.net, though. Judging by reviews, I have about four times as many readers at FF.net. (It actually might be more than that in terms of hits; I suspect a slightly larger percentage of AO3 readers are reviewing my story, but I haven’t sat down to do the math). 

foxghost:

captain-critical replied to your post: I didn’t notice this before because I never…

This is how I feel when I watch my numbers go up! I’ve been staying quiet about it because it makes no sense to me, but Concurrence is 2 kudos away from being the top-kudosed one-part Fenders Fic on AO3. It’s craaazy!

And what does it say about me that instead of publicly kudos I get new subscribers instead. <_< And private bookmarks that I didn’t even know existed until I check the stats page.

(Possibly because of all the non-con…)

(POSSIBLY.)

\o/ concurrence. One of those kudos are mine.

Wait. I don’t think I even really knew about bookmarks. So I looked at my stats, and yep! There are more people with bookmarks for Unshaken than there people who are subscribed. What is that all about? At any rate, I’m glad to know about this! 

thunz:

heretherebdragons:

brennacedria:

foxghost:

heretherebdragons replied to your post: Some days I feel like uploading all my fics to…

I pretty much hate the FF.net upload system with a fiery passion. Docx? WHY????? Why not just have a place to paste in the stories? I honestly cannot understand why they do it that way. :(

I just spent 5 minutes staring at it going HOW? Especially since AO3 exports to mobi/epub/html/PDF. In order to do things their way I guess I’ll have to download a whole fic in html, divide the chapters into individual docx files, and then upload and hope it keeps the formatting.

I might upload the one-shots and not the multi-chapter fics. My fav of mine is 23 chapters and that just seems DAUNTING.

You actually can paste in to the documents now, instead of uploading, but it does have to be a separate file for each chapter still which is a pain if you finish before uploading instead of uploading as you finish each chapter.

How do you paste into the documents? (While still creating a new chapter, I mean). Or are you just recycling documents that you already have in the Document Manager? Because I have done that … but I’m not aware of any way to do it in an AO3 sort of way. 

If you go to the Document Manager under the Create New Document section there is an option to select Copy-N-Paste.

OH MY GAWD. How long has that been there? Is it new? PLEASE TELL ME IT’S NEW. Because I swear I never saw that before. *facepalm* It’s kind of awesome, though! YAY I can eliminate that entire “post everything into Word” step! :) Thank you! 

foxghost:

heretherebdragons replied to your post: Some days I feel like uploading all my fics to…

I pretty much hate the FF.net upload system with a fiery passion. Docx? WHY????? Why not just have a place to paste in the stories? I honestly cannot understand why they do it that way. :(

I just spent 5 minutes staring at it going HOW? Especially since AO3 exports to mobi/epub/html/PDF. In order to do things their way I guess I’ll have to download a whole fic in html, divide the chapters into individual docx files, and then upload and hope it keeps the formatting.

I might upload the one-shots and not the multi-chapter fics. My fav of mine is 23 chapters and that just seems DAUNTING.

Yeah, I think going from AO3 to FF.net would be a big pain. When I’m posting something new, that hasn’t been posted anywhere before, I always go the other way - I put it on FF.net first, and then copy and paste from there into AO3, because FF.net fixes any formatting problems that carry over from my word processing program. But going from AO3? I’m not really all that fond of any of the formatting options for exporting. The thing I do if I really want to get something off of AO3 (for reading later, although it might work for then reposting to FF.net) is that I use the Evernote webclipping function, which captures the text in a way that will still wrap properly in other programs. Hmnh. If you think that might be interesting, and you’re not familiar with Evernote, let me know, and I can tell you a bit more about it. (It’s free, and it’s an AMAZING program all the way around, so I recommend it really highly anyway for file organization. But the web clipping thing is one of my very favorite things EVER). 

brennacedria:

foxghost:

heretherebdragons replied to your post: Some days I feel like uploading all my fics to…

I pretty much hate the FF.net upload system with a fiery passion. Docx? WHY????? Why not just have a place to paste in the stories? I honestly cannot understand why they do it that way. :(

I just spent 5 minutes staring at it going HOW? Especially since AO3 exports to mobi/epub/html/PDF. In order to do things their way I guess I’ll have to download a whole fic in html, divide the chapters into individual docx files, and then upload and hope it keeps the formatting.

I might upload the one-shots and not the multi-chapter fics. My fav of mine is 23 chapters and that just seems DAUNTING.

You actually can paste in to the documents now, instead of uploading, but it does have to be a separate file for each chapter still which is a pain if you finish before uploading instead of uploading as you finish each chapter.

How do you paste into the documents? (While still creating a new chapter, I mean). Or are you just recycling documents that you already have in the Document Manager? Because I have done that … but I’m not aware of any way to do it in an AO3 sort of way. 

Trying to get my DABB up on AO3

bioticbootyshaker:

It’s been a while since I posted up a Big Bang and had to add images to the document. Every time I try to do it through Rich Text, the picture doesn’t show up.

Does anyone know the formatting for adding images to documents on AO3?

You can’t upload directly to AO3 … you need to have the image at some other site (I usually use DeviantArt, although sometimes I just put things here on Tumblr first), and then embed it using the URL. And then you just use the “image source” tag (which I’d cut and paste here, but I’m pretty sure the formatting will get screwy). Does this help? 

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